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-WE HAVE MOVED-

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We have moved

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-WE HAVE MOVED-

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-WE HAVE MOVED-

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The Betrayers have moved to thebetrayers.guildlaunch.com

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-WE HAVE MOVED-

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-WE HAVE MOVED-

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-WE HAVE MOVED-

Merke — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:48:24 GMT

The Betrayers have moved to thebetrayers.guildlaunch.com

Sign up code can be found in Guild info.

Real Life Pictures

Ciccone — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 21:48:01 GMT

I might as well get this one started since it helps me procrastinate and avoid studying!

Its an awful quality one since I need to resize any of the others I put up and to be frank, I can't be bothered doing that

Yay for camera phones >.>

Apologies

Ciccone — Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:44:17 GMT

Sorry about this guys but I might not be able to get on WoW for a week or so. When I'm at Uni (like I am now), the firewall blocks access to Blizz's servers for WoW so I get my connection routed through a VPN to Germany so I can play from the comfort of my messy residence room. Unfortunately, it looks like the VPN has just gone down and the person who hosts / manages it is still back home in America for the mid-term.... =/ I've checked it out on my end and its working fine and it seems to be ...

Gruul

zyberian — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 23:06:37 GMT

So i ve been hearing a whole lot of things about the guilds attempt at "das Gruulinator" and to be honest in my experience (and yes i have TRIED the schmuck..and failed horribly) we are not yet geared and organised enough for such an event

Heres' why :

We DONT have the correct amount of Tank specced classes (Ava and now Methias and... 3rd n 4th pleae put your vote in here

We DONT have Enough well geared Healer Specced classes (Ciccone Fermin Cascardo *insert 6 more here*

We ...

Must Read Before Running Kara

Merke — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:26:42 GMT

The Essentially Needed Guide To Clearing Kara

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=717CoVJ687M&feature=related

RP pictures

Avatryne — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 06:45:24 GMT

Look how clever I am! I figgured out how to host pictures...so untill i have some screenies of us kicking the UA's asses...you will have to put up with avas gorgeous face xxx

Druids

Ciccone — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 22:05:19 GMT

Our attempt on Aran tonight highlighted one very sore point. We don't have enough healers in the guild as too many classes that can heal are specced out to dps or something else. To try and ease this problem I'd like all druids to post their talent build and current gear here so I can get you organized if any of you ever want to come raiding - theres a distinct lack of druids in the raid group and I'd like to sort that. We're a very cable class and should be integrated into the raid often. If ...

Ciccone's Music Jukebox Cheese Grater

Ciccone — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 13:47:12 GMT

Basically this is going to be my outlet to expressing my music taste. Whenever I am on these forums and if I remember I will add 1-3 songs to this list. These will only be songs that I like however if you are interested in good music give them a listen to and let me know what you think!.

Todays recommendations:

(Artist - Song)

Fugazi - Waiting Room

Muse - Glorious

Sonic Youth - Teen Age Riot

Loot Reaver

Daggerbah — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:04:44 GMT

... If we can take Gruul down, we can certainly do loot reaver and get some sxc T5 shoulders ! ooo shiney epixs !!

Put your views in below .... i say if we have a spare hour or 2 after gruul's run we give it a shot !

More support !!

Daggerbah — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:01:42 GMT

Need more warlock's and mage's.... me thinks, been a few nights now where even a kara run is done without a mage or a warlock !!

Must have spare classes Expecially for gruul and CC in tk

A bit about yourself

Ciccone — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:33:57 GMT

This part was looking bare so I thought I would liven it up! Basically, say a short amount about yourself. It can be anything - where your from; your favourite food, colour, film; what you are doing with your life; what you WANT to do with your life (playing WoW all day isn't an option.... unfortunately) and anything interesting you want to share amongst fellow guildies. So, to kick things off:

My name's Luke (since first names are always a splendid thing to have) and I'm from Scotland. ...

NEW ADDON UPDATES - PATCH 2.4

Merke — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 20:11:11 GMT

Omen

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/9101/

- Link is playing up atm but keep trying and you get through.

DBM

http://www.deadlybossmods.com/

(Link to new one is on the right)

PallyPower

Daggerbah — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 14:06:30 GMT

I want Every Paladin to have this addon it's very usefull in raids to know what your fellow Paladin is blessing and ther is no confusion which means every1 is always blessed !!

You have no Excuss !

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/details/3738/

25 man tactics

Sheleena — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:06:04 GMT

if you have anything you want to add or have found useful then this is the place to say it

BETRAYERS 1sts

Sheleena — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:52:13 GMT

use this post to show anything (with pictures) that the guild does that we have never acheived before.

Merke / Ryus Arena Vids

Merke — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:21:40 GMT

They're pretty old now but Algos got his on here xD

*Raids Forums*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMzsGi2pbxk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVh5ZrUgOIY

WTB bed time story

Ciccone — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:19:37 GMT

HINT >.>

Migration plans

Ruid — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 17:25:36 GMT

Hi,

Since we are joining 2 guilds we should discuss and implement few things. I know some may say it is not required or leave things as there are because we like it.

However this is unavoidable, we have to face them and improve our tools

1. Raid signups.

Any in-game addons are not working properly when you try to use them by more then few people. Essadir has pointed out best solutions.

They are tested and we can relay on them. Nobody will be missed if signed.

2. Voice ...

Stop this shit with two groups

Ciccone — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:48:46 GMT

The groups are what YOU people make of it. There is no "group 2 curse" there is no secret society where all the good players go in group 1 and group 1 hasn't downed Hogger contrary to popular rumours.

I'm fine to go in either group. HOWEVER - if I am assigned to group 2 this one week I'll need a late start (9UK or so) thats all. Normally Friday is a bit of a bollock for me to make anyway since I like my booze and pubs at the start of the weekend. But I will make sacrifices to accommodate ...

Tal'lanore brothers

Essadir — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:58:27 GMT

1. IC Name : Quarill & Essadir

2. Class : Priest / Rogue

3. Specc / Gear : Full Holy (41) / CombatHemo

4 IRL Name : Kamil

5 Age : 31

6 Job / School : WebDesigner

7 Game Expirience (You expirience in Pve) : Playin wow for 2 years. I used to play as HolyPriest, but my "main" is rogue. PreTBC experience - ZG/AQ20/MC, as priest, rogue and mage. TBC - all heroicx - too damn many times , ZA cleared (2nd chest run included), Karazhan cleared, Gruuls Lair & "Maggy" ...

Willing to lead ...

Daggerbah — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:51:59 GMT

Hey guys n gals just to let u all know i have been leading Karazhan runs for the past 3 months every friday night in my old guilds .....

I would love to start leading a 2nd grup for u all... another big step to gearing up for 25 mans

Let me know what u think

I can also help out leading ZA(1,2,3rd bosses),Gruul,...... TK(Alar,VR),SSC(lurker,leo the blind) for furture referance as ive experience in these aswel.

New Tattoo!!!

Avatryne — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:34:07 GMT

and yes...its fucking sore

Rants

Ciccone — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:48:04 GMT

Anything you want to rant about, be it in game experiences or real life occurrences should sit in here. This is supposed to be a light hearted topic where people can let off steam so if you have a problem with another guild member private messaging them or whispering them in game is highly encouraged instead of flaming their arse off here. So without adeu (the french word) I'll start things off.

After going to the garage to get something to eat I met up with one of my friends who I haven't ...

how i feel right now...

Avatryne — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 05:17:57 GMT

Im very tired...and symphony X fucing rawk \m/ that is all...

Raid group organisation

Knargelion — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 15:30:34 GMT

At about 6:30 last night (GMT not server) I was busy planning a somewhat grumpy rant to dump here, but since then I've heard a couple of appeasing messages about sub-ins, got drunk, seen a frankly awesome band called kid harpoon, randomly met a uni-friend there (saw Lee last night Fermin ), and got stoned, so I'm finding it hard to dig up any general feelings of pissed-offness.

Still, the fact remains that for two consecutive weeks I've been one of the first to stick my name down on the ...

joining

Anonymous — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:53:58 GMT

1. IC Name : Wizney

2. Class : Preist

3. Specc / Gear : Full Shadow - 4 Epic - 10 Blue - 2 Green

4 IRL Name : Magnus

5 Age : 14

6 Job / School : 8. grade in school

7 Game Expirience ( You expirience in Pve) : MC - ZG - Kara

8 Availability

9 Previous guilds and why did you leave / why were you kicked from them: Holger Danske - the guild loosed a lot of members so no more raiding, not many online so no more fun, it all got crashed down.

10. Why do you want to join our guild ...

Healing in Karazhan

Ciccone — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 11:56:13 GMT

So I cant be arsed farming, my next lecture is too close for either struggling to solo my dailies (how I love that one in Ogri'la ^_^ ) or find a group for an heroic so instead you will get the start of my lovely guide of how to heal in the Ivory Tower! So, why am I doing this? Simple, because all those "How To" videos rarely tell you about healing tactics instead leaving you with the lovely surprise of Garrote ticking for 1000 on multiple targets on your first time doing Moroes. So ...

Raiding rules

Fermin — Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:04:02 GMT

This is directed at the ruling elite mainly (Ava, Shanu and co). Last night we only downed two bosses; neither of which take much clearing to get to, if any. How did this take us three hours to do?! It comes down to pure disorganisation. If we can't organise ourselves in Kara how will we ever manage in ZA's timed events or when we have 25 people to manage?

I think we need to make some raiding groundrules. I'm starting to get really annoyed at how disorganised we are. People not having pots, ...

Warriors OMFGWTFBBQ!!!!

Avatryne — Thu, 31 Jan 2008 17:45:24 GMT

So..you can wear plate but have no silly spells and you want to come and play with the big boys?

Ive got experience with all three warrior specs, so no QQing about anything i say just cause i am prot now.

So far i have one rule as thus;

If you are arms spec DO NOT expect a place in my raids. It is a pvp spec and the only time you will be offered a place is as a very last resort. I am open to fury warriors in kara raids as their damage output is imba and with gear they can serve ...

2.4 Profession(als)

zyberian — Fri, 22 Feb 2008 17:50:03 GMT

Note to ciccone (if she reads) Transmute Arcanite no longer has a cooldown.

Transmute Arcanite no longer has a cooldown.

Transmute Arcanite no longer has a cooldown.

This means Naxxramas is onbtainable very easy at only honored rep with Argent Dawn

* Added several new tradeskill items to the new Sunwell Daily faction vendor:

o Enchanting recipe to shatter a Void Crystal into two Large Prismatic Shards.

o Enchanting recipe to increase Defense Rating by 15 ...

idea

Sheleena — Thu, 28 Feb 2008 02:04:37 GMT

ive been reading through the PvE section

rather than having ppl randomly stick class guides in there can we have a class forum...so mage, warrior, druiid, priest etc...then ppl can all add to that things they feel useful

shel

Zyberian's Story

zyberian — Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:36:44 GMT

Full name: Zyberian Vladis Templar

Born: 32 years after the First Coming

Occupation: Mage intructor of The Great City of Dalaran, Arch-mage to the Lorekeepers

Backround: Born into a Well-to-do family but certainly not a noble by any standards Zyberian was brought up as a senior child of the Templar family near Stratholme. He began practising the Arts of the Arcane, purely by accident as it goes while looking for some excitement in the town in his 15th year and became a quick study under ...

My computer is off.

BeckPoulsen — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:42:57 GMT

When i would change my soundcard i killed my computer.. Dont know what happend, but i can't start it now. So i have to buy a new one before i come online again.. But if i can install WoW on my laptop, which i'am sitting on now, then i maybe be online in the future.. But i maybe have to wait, to i have money enough for at new one..( Arround 2 weeks, but maybe earliere if i can loan of my parents. )

AND Ciccone, and you other heoric guys, i'am so sorry that i dont come back for our heroic, ...

Kara cleared

Ciccone — Mon, 25 Feb 2008 02:33:22 GMT

WINNARS!

2.4Patch

zyberian — Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:37:47 GMT

About damn time i do say and some of the changes are worth the read especially casters INTELLECT FTW

http://www.wow-europe.com/en/info/underdev/testrealm.html

Kara!!

Avatryne — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:54:31 GMT

Starting from next week,( after out first guild venture in kara this thursday) i would like people to sign up for future raids as we have too many people wanting to come, but not enough healers/tanks to suppliment two groups.

So for now, DPS (and perhaps healers) will have to take weekly turns for runs untill we can get enough decent geared tanks, and a little more experience to justify more then one team.

Reply with your name, class, spec and gear lvl (how many blues/greens/epixxxx) ...

Addons

Avatryne — Tue, 08 Jan 2008 14:58:15 GMT

Just a quick word to let you know..

the minimum addons wise i expect you to have is:

Omen/KTM threat meter (i use omen and i think it pwns all over KTM but whichever you preffer is fine)

Deadly boss mods ( not ev everyone HAS to have this in the group...but is safer if you do..VERY usefull on bosses)

I wont take anyone without a threat meter under ANY circumstance..that means you too Shanu

there are various other helpfull mods out there, have a look around...see what ...

2 kara teams....am i crazy?!

Avatryne — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:06:14 GMT

Ok so, weve progressed through kara and are currently at the last two bosses. Within a week or so im hoping those meanie dragons will be Ko'd with me and ciccone flexing naked in front of them.

So what now? Well we have waaaaay more people then we need for one 10 man team to have kara on farm. Especially DPS i find myself having to turn half the guild away for pew pew spots.

So..i propose...one netherspite and nightbane are dead we do as thus.

The current "team imbah" ...

For the Boomkins

zyberian — Wed, 20 Feb 2008 20:48:47 GMT

Heres some gear for boomkins to go : lol why is that mage doing less dps than me??!!!1!!

I would also like to point there is actually a lot more boom gear in the game its just a short list of easy access stuff

Head of oom

http://thottbot.com/i25570 Melia's Lustrous Crown

http://thottbot.com/i30297 Circlet of the Starcaller

http://thottbot.com/i27763 Crown of the Forest Lord

Shoulder

http://thottbot.com/i30373 Netherfused Pauldrons

http://thottbot.com/i28255 Lunar-Claw Pauldrons ...

Illhoof and Prince down

Ciccone — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 10:50:23 GMT

Even with Blizzard conspiring to lock our imba characters in Karazhan forever and force us into a Hogger raid to pass time we still managed to down both Prince and Illhoof. Personally I think thats excellent since the majority of the guild has never raided before - (we're a glorified PUG! WAYHEY!) and it can only mean things will be getting better for us.

Zul'amman

zyberian — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 16:43:13 GMT

So the Guild has almost cleared Karazhan. Gz to all involved.

You want to go further and need that little extra push to get there. Well for a Team make up i would recommend

Of course this can be adjusdted how ever for the sake of stability this is just Team IMBA

Grp 1

Warrior Tank

Priest Healer

Paladin Healer

ShadowPriest / Elemental Shaman DPS

Warlock / Hunter DPS

Grp 2

Druid Tank

Druid TOL Healer

Mage DPS

Rogue DPS

Warlock / Hunter / Shadow Priest

This setup ...

The Betrayers

-We have Moved-

Betrayers have moved

We have Movedzor

-WE HAVE MOVED-

We have moved

-WE HAVE MOVED-

-WE HAVE MOVED-

-WE HAVE MOVED-

-WE HAVE MOVED-

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Real Life Pictures

Apologies

Gruul

**Must Read Before Running Kara**

RP pictures

Druids

Ciccone's Music Jukebox Cheese Grater

Loot Reaver

More support !!

A bit about yourself

NEW ADDON UPDATES - PATCH 2.4

PallyPower

25 man tactics

BETRAYERS 1sts

Merke / Ryus Arena Vids

WTB bed time story

Migration plans

Stop this shit with two groups

Tal'lanore brothers

Willing to lead ...

New Tattoo!!!

Rants

how i feel right now...

Raid group organisation

joining

Healing in Karazhan

Raiding rules

Warriors OMFGWTFBBQ!!!!

2.4 Profession(als)

idea

Zyberian's Story

My computer is off.

Kara cleared

2.4Patch

Kara!!

Addons

2 kara teams....am i crazy?!

For the Boomkins

Illhoof and Prince down

Zul'amman

Must Read Before Running Kara